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  • Capturing? I’d like to know who enjoys using this method.

    Posted by Paula Mrazek on December 15, 2022 at 5:25 pm

    Hi!

    I’m curious about who uses Capturing and what they like to use it for. It seems like a great training method, we just have to observe our dog’s behavior, mark and reward. I’ve been searching for more on it’s uses.

    What are your favorite methods of training (positively, of course) and I thought I’d poke around to see if you like to use what a dog naturally offers as a means of training.

    Jackie Congdon replied 3 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Catherine Comden

    Administrator
    December 15, 2022 at 5:29 pm

    Fun topic, @bernerlabreclectus – I will chime in once others have a chance. ????

  • Virginia Dare

    Moderator
    December 15, 2022 at 6:04 pm

    Super topic, @paula! My favorite training technique is shaping, but I’ve jump-started a lot of behaviors over the years by capturing — either the full behavior, or a nice starting chunk. For example: bow, dig, roll over, paw cross, hide your nose, spin, funny pre-bark sounds, and sit pretty, to name a few.
    Can’t wait to see other members’ input!

    • Paula Mrazek

      Member
      December 19, 2022 at 2:29 pm

      That’s really cool, @virginiad ! I will try to start using it to capture some of these tricks (especially the Rollover, which lots of dogs do, but can be more difficult to shape). If you ever have a video clip, I’d love to see!

      • Virginia Dare

        Moderator
        December 19, 2022 at 3:48 pm

        Alas, I have no video of capturing a rollover. But I did find an OLD clip showing a variety of skills I taught my dogs by capturing first, and then shaping from there. The format needs to be changed though…

      • Virginia Dare

        Moderator
        December 22, 2022 at 3:30 pm

        @bernerlabreclectus , Catherine kindly converted an old video clip of mine, which shows a few tricks I taught to some of my dogs in the past. In each case, the training began by capturing an initial ‘chunk’ of the behavior, and then I shaped/refined from there.

        1:12

        Golly Creativity

        1:12

        • Paula Mrazek

          Member
          December 22, 2022 at 11:53 pm

          Gosh, @virginiad …so many cool things you can do with capturing! How long did it take to get to the point of putting these behaviors on cue? I especially think the first one with the jawing and hands like Talk was neat. Such a funny thing for a pup to do!

          Thank you for sharing with us and thanks @Catherine, for compiling!

          • Virginia Dare

            Moderator
            December 23, 2022 at 9:52 am

            @bernerlabreclectus , those were from a long time ago, so I can’t recall how long it took to put the behaviors on cue, and some dogs were probably faster than others. ????

  • Krista Campagna

    Member
    December 16, 2022 at 5:32 am

    @bernerlabreclectus I can’t wait to see what other say about capturing. I use a lot of shaping and the only time I used capturing with my guys- is catching them laying in their bed- which is the cue settle because I would always capture it and reward. I also use this in daycare, when I see dogs relaxed i capture it and reward. So glad you brought up this subject:)

  • David Muriello

    Administrator
    December 16, 2022 at 10:03 am

    I love capturing @bernerlabreclectus – so much about it is cool: no lures to fade, you can do it anytime, and you get to watch the dog figure out a new behavior! It’s like a conversation and a game between you and the dog. And it can happen in one sitting or over the span of a week or more. Then you come to “new conclusions” together. From there, you can build more behaviors and understandings (like adding duration or distraction to a stay), or you can just enjoy what you’ve got from your efforts (like a more relaxed dog in the examples you gave @pawsup )

  • Paula Mrazek

    Member
    December 16, 2022 at 1:08 pm

    Thank you all!!! It’s fascinating, for sure! I’ve been watching some training videos with cats lately, and this seems to be a great method with them. I know dogs are different and we can use luring and sharing as our key methods.

    But capturing is so cool! I’ve often thought of using it to mark calm and polite behaviors DURING a lesson/training session, with a clicker instead. I use “Yes!” or “Good girl/boy!” as markers for the training. Do you think that would work? I’m thinking especially of dogs who are overexcited when people come in (especially me, as the trainer) and sometimes it takes awhile for them to calm enough to focus. But I’m uncertain if that would rile them back up?!

    It seems like @pawsup , you use a similar method as I described, in a more informal setting of daycare. I think it’s just so similar to taking a picture of moments you like, and reviewing them fondly. I’d love to know more.

    • Catherine Comden

      Administrator
      December 16, 2022 at 3:07 pm

      Yes Paula! I think your idea is great. And if you are quick to deliver, you won’t even need a clicker. I use capturing a lot with baby puppies learning to live politely in a home….

      I remember one client thinking I was using some kind of magic, because I was able to capture/shape calmer behavior within a few minutes of coming to their home.

      Technically it was pure shaping – but started with me capturing “calmer”. The dog was tied so couldn’t self-reward (jump on me) and while I chatted with the owner, I watched the dog out of the corner of my eye. Any time she looked down, I tossed a treat. Soon, she was looking down a lot, then lowering her elbows, then her hiney… etc. Next thing you knew, she was lying down calmly and I hadn’t moved or looked at her except to toss the food. ????

      Sold them a training package that day. ????

      • Bruce MacWatters

        Member
        December 16, 2022 at 3:57 pm

        Great stuff. I love shaping and capturing

  • Jackie Congdon

    Member
    January 5, 2023 at 10:32 am

    Sorry I didn’t see all the conversations ahead of my question. NM ????

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