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LIVE TPW |Teaching Resilience; Lowering Frustration | Thurs Feb 23rd 3pm EST
UPDATE: Here is the link to join today’s HoundTable LIVE event!
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https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89823709375?pwd=UGxhZ0NxOU9mcFlLaisyMHcxcWwwdz09Meeting ID: 898 2370 9375
Passcode: 915758????The topic for our February HoundTable gathering is: Increasing Emotional Resilience and Lowering Frustration in Dogs.???? (Thanks to @doggonespecial for the topic nudge!)
From helping puppies become adaptable to teaching “reactive” dogs to “chillax”, we’ll discuss strategies for management and training. The link to join will be shared in this post (right here!) the day of the event, Thursday, February 23rd at 3pm EST. Don’t miss it!
What can I do now? – Brainstorm below! Think about situations when you’ve seen a dog who needs more ability to cope, and share some details for us to be thinking about!
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Have a labradoodle, 3 years old, who is very sound reactive. Barks at all unknown sounds. Have discovered that this breed tends to be high anxiety anyway and have a hard time winding down. Food puzzles help to some extent but always looking for new management techniques!
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This is a great topic. One of the things I have found over the years is let the dog figure it out with our guidance. Give the dog some freedom, instead of always giving cues. Just hang out Reward the good stuff. There is a great handout called the “hang out” hack by Kim Brophey. It’s very simple but it works. Dogs by nature can learn to adapt. We just have to give them the right set up and dont push it.
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My standard poodle is very reactive. She is better over the past year since I have implemented training and like Bruce, I always carry a clicker on my wrist and click when I capture behaviors I want. The clicker works better for her – the clear concise sound is a game changer. Instead of her reacting and me redirecting, I let her know when she is doing things right with a click. Also structure is good for her ability to stay calm. Capturing and structure are the best keys for her success. Being aware of breeds with high arousal temperaments keeps the expectations realistic as well.
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@bmacwatt @JCongdon @hollyjmartinez
If you have a short 1-2 min video of the case you are describing where a dog needs to build frustration tolerance or learn resilience, it would be great if you were able to share this during our talk tomorrow! Could you bring a short clip – or even a photo so we have a visual for our discussion?
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Sorry I tried sending this yesterday and didn’t go through. Not sure this is a great video but shows my poodle on constant high alert – in cars, walks, dogs, cats; I think it’s her breed. We work on conditioned responses and it’s better but between temperament and breed it’s hard for her to relax in many situations. She’s an awesome dog though and I’ve learned a lot by having her!
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@JCongdon – thanks so much for sharing this! I’ll put it in our discussion queue and see what tips we can work up. Are you able to join us today!? ????
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Love this topic, as the parent of a guy with generalized anxiety. When we’re out walking and he gets startled (stranger in the hallway, abrupt noise, novel object in an otherwise familiar place), he has a hard time getting back to neutral after the stimulus has passed. Excited for this discussion!
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Awesome input so far – Agreed; this is going to be a great topic for discussion.
Plan on extra time – this is bound to go over an hour; I’ve budgeted 90min.
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Hi Everyone- hi wondering if anybody has ideas for dogs that come to group classes and display some anxiety and stress. Thank you!
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Also: The latest episode of the Worry Less, Wag More podcast (from Behavior Vets) is an awesome interview with Dr. Kathy Murphy and Bobbie Bhambree on resilience! Had to share here.
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Great share, @wagswithwarren – thanks!
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I’m listening to this podcast now, @wagswithwarren -and am reminded of the graphic the speakers published awhile back. There’s an accompanying article for those who want to “go deep” with the science. It’s going to be great to chat through how we can use this info to help our dogs improve their resilience – just look at all those areas!
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Oh, definitely lots of great food for thought. This is my first exposure to this topic and it was super interesting to see these “domains” listed and explained. I would think many of us already incorporate a lot of these with our dogs. I know I have even though I never thought of them as resilience measures!
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SEE HOW YOU ARE HELPING HENRY ALREADY!! ????
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True, it’s reassuring to know you’re doing something right!???? And always good to find new areas where I can try something different.
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Can’t wait for you to share what you’ve learned with the group at the HoundTable! (and hopefully pick up a few more ideas!)
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@wagswithwarren Would you be willing to share a quick video clip (1-2 min) of Henry in a common situation where you want to build resilience or lower frustration in our HoundTable tomorrow? This would make talking about these types of situations so much more real and relevant plus help with brainstorming ideas for him.
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@catherine I will try to snag a video tomorrow morning on our walk and post it here! Sadly, something has come up and I don’t think I’ll be able to call in live.???? Eager to see the recap
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Ah drat! We’ll miss you! But we will happily receive your video and case history if you would like to submit it. Give us a brief recap of Henry’s story and include a brief list of what you’ve implemented so we can try to come up with new ideas for you. You can drop it to me here or to my inbox – diggingdogs@catchdogtrainers.com
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In addition to the anxiety I mentioned when I first proposed this topic, I see a common thread with the inability to cope with frustration and other behavioral issues such as hyper-arousal. These dogs have over-the-top reactions to events or anticipation of events (whether positive or negative). They go from 0-60 in no time. They live in a constant state of stress that has both physiological and psychological effects on them. I’ve found many dogs who are anxious also get overly aroused and many dogs who are overly aroused become anxious. They can be tricky to treat. One has to be careful in balancing between teaching them impulse control, boundaries, and coping skills without causing them to go over threshold.
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Ooohhh @doggonespecial – can you bring one of these cases to the HoundTable and give a quick description there of what you are seeing with a dog so we can brainstorm on that specifically? If you have a 1-2 min video of the dog or even a photo that can help with visual reference, that would really help.
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Hi @catherine. I don’t have video. It’s A 3 year 4 month old pittie rescued from the shelter I just started working with. My client adopted him about 2 weeks ago. I had a consultation last week and our first session last night.
During the consultation the client describes that he can be calm and then something excites him and he starts jumping. It’s usually for a social interaction with people but can also be during play and other areas. She describes the behavior as that he will be walking calmly then out of nowhere something will excite him and he starts jumping. It’s difficult to calm him down once he gets in that mode and it can be unpredictable.
When she comes home, she takes him out of his crate and after he stretches he gets very excited and starts jumping on her.
Outside the apartment he tends to jump on people who are in close proximity to him. He will pull on the leash then start jumping on them. She describes it not as aggressive but gets very excited and wants to greet them. He has difficulty controlling his excitement.
For example, when she was coming into a lobby from a walk he was calm. They were waiting for the elevator and there was a woman who was standing by the elevator with a large bin. At first he didn’t do anything but as they were trying to go by her to get by her and the big bin to get into the elevator he started jumping on the woman. She gave some more examples which I can detail tomorrow.
The shelter indicated social hyper-arousal citing that he becomes excited by nearby activity such as people playing with balls, etc. He pulls towards them and ‘demand’ barks, continuously.
I also witnessed his arousal last night during our first in-person session. I helped her getting him out of the crate with a little easy exercise and he was fine and did not jump on me. He attempted a few jumps but was able to calm down so When I started with some training, I was working with freeze-dried chicken to teach him the marker with an eye contact game and saw he was getting too aroused with some jumping so I switched to kibble. He still was aroused so I decided not to do that exercise and start with impulse control. were (I usually don’t like to do that on initially meeting a dog because I want to develop a relationship, but this is a bit of complicated case which I can explain tomorrow).
The impulse control exercises went well and so did targeting but there were periods during the session when he would get mouthy and jump. Usually, when we were on break. He could be calm one minute chewing on his Kong then come and seek attention and start to get aroused.
Just a little more background, he was neutered on Thursday and was brought into the ER the same night because his sutures burst and he was bleeding from the surgery. The vet prescribed trazodone. When we met yesterday, she told me she noticed an increase in his arousal after the surgery. He had the “Zoomies” in the apartment, was jumping and pulling more on walks. Today she contacted saying she had a difficult time with him after I left when she took him for a walk and inside the apartment. I had her contact the vet because I suspect he may be experiencing side effects from the medication – (e.g. increased appetite, excitability, and a little aggression (he growled) at her when she pet him when she was trying to calm him down. Perhaps that in combination with recent surgery and lack of activity is making matters worse than usual.
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This is an interesting case Amy. @doggonespecial It sounds like there may be multiple factors at play (no pun intended!) We’re really talking about the whole “coping skills” package with this case, and it is complex stuff!
I’ve found many dogs who are anxious also get overly aroused and many dogs who are overly aroused become anxious. They can be tricky to treat. One has to be careful in balancing between teaching them impulse control, boundaries, and coping skills without causing them to go over threshold. – Amy S.
I’m wondering factors you may have already adjusted? Will you be ready to give us more detail about that? Thanks for bringing the case!
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For anyone I tagged about potentially bringing a video to the HoundTable tomorrow – if you would rather I handle “tech” to share the video I’m more than happy to do so – just email me the clip (or post it here in this thread) and I’ll take it from there – thank youoooo!
Unrelated peaceful Kauai beach photo below to create an “ahhhh” moment just because this topic can be stressful for people too!
@hollyjmartinez @JCongdon @bmacwatt @wagswithwarren @doggonespecial
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Looking forward to tomorrow:)
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???? Here’s the meeting link to join today’s LIVE HoundTable! See you there promptly at
Noon PST/ 1pm Mtn/ 2pm CST/ 3pm EST
Please have your name visible when you join! This event is exclusive to DD members.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89823709375?pwd=UGxhZ0NxOU9mcFlLaisyMHcxcWwwdz09
Meeting ID: 898 2370 9375
Passcode: 915758
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Lol for some reason I thought it was on Friday ???? . I am so bummed I couldn’t make it! ???? Sounds like it was a blast though. ???? ❤️ ???? ❤️
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Oh no! I hate when that happens – every day is BLURSday some weeks!
Stay tuned – much more to come on this topic!!
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Lol yes blursday! I love it! ???? Exactly how I felt lol. ????
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I am sorry. I thought I could make it and I got tied up. I really miss this topic.
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We missed you!
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I’m also so sorry I had to miss it!! I had a work meeting. ????
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We missed you Sandy! I’ll be sharing clips soon – please do join the ongoing convos in the days to come!
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